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50 best core rules
(yoinked from gbsteve)

Here's the list of the 50 best core rules, as scored on RPG.net, bold the ones you own.

I'm adding a game designer/writer twist: italicize ones you've worked on. (Supplements count.)

1 Nobilis (8.31)
2 Spirit of the Century (8.25)
3 King Arthur Pendragon (8.14)
4 Unknown Armies (8.13)
5 Call of Cthulhu (7.95)
6 Feng Shui: Action Movie Roleplaying (7.93)
7 Mutants & Masterminds (7.75)
8 Over the Edge (7.7)

9 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (7.68)
10 Paranoia (7.68)
11 Angel Roleplaying Game (7.67)

12 Talislanta (7.62)
13 Buffy the Vampire Slayer Roleplaying Game (7.62)
14 Mouse Guard Roleplaying Game (7.6)

15 Dread: The First Book of Pandemonium (7.59)
16 Prime Time Adventures (7.56)
17 Big Eyes, Small Mouth (BESM) (7.55)
18 Don't Rest Your Head (7.55)

19 Starblazer Adventures (7.55)
20 Tribe 8 (7.54)
21 Fading Suns (7.52)
22 All Flesh Must Be Eaten (7.45)
23 Jovian Chronicles (7.45)
24 Adventure! (7.4)
25 Silver Age Sentinels (7.39)
26 Reign (7.37)

27 RuneQuest (7.36)
28 Call of Cthulhu d20 (7.34)
29 HeroQuest (7.33)
30 Dungeons & Dragons Rules Cyclopedia (7.33)
31 Faery's Tale (7.33)
32 Dogs in the Vineyard (7.32)
33 Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (7.32)
34 Wraith: The Oblivion (7.31)
35 Puppetland: A Storytelling Game with Strings in a Grim World of Make-believe (7.31)

36 Hollow Earth Expedition (7.31)
37 Ars Magica (7.29)
38 Legend of the Five Rings (7.29)
39 Artesia: Adventures in the Known World (7.29)
40 Heavy Gear (7.29)
41 Deadlands (7.28)
42 Changeling: The Lost (7.27)
43 Monsters and Other Childish Things (7.25)
44 InSpectres (7.21)
45 Dark Heresy (7.21)
46 Kult (7.21)
47 The Extraordinary Adventures of Baron Munchausen (7.2)
48 Castle Falkenstein (7.19)
49 Blue Planet Player's Guide (7.19)
50 Blue Planet (7.18)

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trooper6 From: trooper6 Date: February 25th, 2010 11:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
I wonder why GURPS isn't anywhere on that list?
chadu From: chadu Date: February 26th, 2010 12:09 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, that was a curious omission.
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From: doccross Date: February 26th, 2010 12:17 am (UTC) (Link)
TOON is missing? Hmmm...no doubt it was crowded out by the decided indie lean.
cmdr_zoom From: cmdr_zoom Date: February 26th, 2010 12:47 am (UTC) (Link)
You expected otherwise from RPG.net?
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chadu From: chadu Date: February 26th, 2010 01:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
You don't even own any of the list other than Pendragon?
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cmdr_zoom From: cmdr_zoom Date: February 26th, 2010 01:00 am (UTC) (Link)
Shorter to list them this way:

6 Feng Shui: Action Movie Roleplaying
12 Talislanta(1)
17 Big Eyes, Small Mouth (BESM)
24 Adventure!(2)
30 Dungeons & Dragons Rules Cyclopedia
33 Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game
37 Ars Magica
48 Castle Falkenstein

(1) Um... has anyone actually played this recently? My main impression was "typical second-generation D&D-knockoff everything-but-the-kitchen-sink fantasy game, where More Weirdness And Variety Means Better". Ten different kinds of magic and different rules for each. I guess if you're thirteen and have tons of free time, or fondly remember when you were...

(2) Sorry, but this iteration of the Storyteller system just didn't work for me. All the stuff with Stalwarts, etc, and detailed rules for dramatic editing rather than (say) Feng Shui's much more freewheeling (if trust-requiring) "just say it's there and go with it" approach was really clunky. The worldbook section also left a very bad taste in my mouth - nothing in the official setting struck me as especially good, let alone brilliant, and having all of the characters illustrated by photos of what were plainly WW staffers and their gamer friends in half-assed costume was just ridiculous.
zonemind From: zonemind Date: February 26th, 2010 05:59 am (UTC) (Link)
Adventure! was… a huge disappointment. There were parts I loved, but they were like flakes of diamond stuck in tar. I couldn't find a use for the whole package, and the diamonds weren't large enough to use for anything else.

On the other hand, I didn't actively hate the setting, like I did with Spirit of the Century.

And on the gripping hand, I actually gutted SotC and used the Fudge-based mechanics inside, and loved them.
zonemind From: zonemind Date: February 26th, 2010 03:09 am (UTC) (Link)
Nobilis?

Number one?

The HELL?!!

No. Upgraded to "Fuck No", then a layer of "I'd be more likely to see action with Gisele Bundchen" melted over the top.

Epic List Fail, only slightly compounded by the fact that Blue Planet made the top fifty… twice.

I will say that Spirit of the Century was a pretty good implementation of Fudge, though.
joshroby From: joshroby Date: February 26th, 2010 04:49 am (UTC) (Link)
I was amused as well that Nobilis, which isn't quite a rule set, got the #1 slot.

But it's a popularity contest and geek-cred-showoff exercise, so should we expect anything else?
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From: rednikki Date: February 26th, 2010 05:53 am (UTC) (Link)
So glad to see that Feng Shui ranks so high and that Champions is NOWHERE on the list.
chadu From: chadu Date: February 27th, 2010 04:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
Righty-ho.
jonlaw From: jonlaw Date: February 26th, 2010 10:30 am (UTC) (Link)
Um, I think I'll try to respond to Chad's question.

1 Nobilis (8.31)
2 Spirit of the Century (8.25)
3 King Arthur Pendragon (8.14)
4 Unknown Armies (8.13)
5 Call of Cthulhu (7.95)(1)
6 Feng Shui: Action Movie Roleplaying (7.93)
7 Mutants & Masterminds (7.75)
8 Over the Edge (7.7)
9 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (7.68)
10 Paranoia (7.68)
11 Angel Roleplaying Game (7.67)
12 Talislanta (7.62)
13 Buffy the Vampire Slayer Roleplaying Game (7.62)
14 Mouse Guard Roleplaying Game (7.6)
15 Dread: The First Book of Pandemonium (7.59)
16 Prime Time Adventures (7.56)
17 Big Eyes, Small Mouth (BESM) (7.55)
18 Don't Rest Your Head (7.55)
19 Starblazer Adventures (7.55)
20 Tribe 8 (7.54)
21 Fading Suns (7.52)
22 All Flesh Must Be Eaten (7.45)
23 Jovian Chronicles (7.45)
24 Adventure! (7.4)
25 Silver Age Sentinels (7.39)
26 Reign (7.37)
27 RuneQuest (7.36)
28 Call of Cthulhu d20 (7.34)
29 HeroQuest (7.33)
30 Dungeons & Dragons Rules Cyclopedia (7.33)
31 Faery's Tale (7.33)
32 Dogs in the Vineyard (7.32)
33 Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (7.32)
34 Wraith: The Oblivion (7.31)
35 Puppetland: A Storytelling Game with Strings in a Grim World of Make-believe (7.31)
36 Hollow Earth Expedition (7.31)
37 Ars Magica (7.29)
38 Legend of the Five Rings (7.29)
39 Artesia: Adventures in the Known World (7.29)
40 Heavy Gear (7.29)
41 Deadlands (7.28)
42 Changeling: The Lost (7.27)
43 Monsters and Other Childish Things (7.25)
44 InSpectres (7.21)
45 Dark Heresy (7.21)
46 Kult (7.21)
47 The Extraordinary Adventures of Baron Munchausen (7.2)
48 Castle Falkenstein (7.19)
49 Blue Planet Player's Guide (7.19)
50 Blue Planet (7.18)

(1) Call of Cthulhu gets a technical italics entry for me, but only barely. I made uncredited contributions to the 1990s Handbook back, well, in the 1990s. I did the military backgrounds and story seeds sections, but when my main introductory piece got cut, the editor thought I was no longer on the lists of contributors and I did not find out until the book was in my hands. I still got paid in both books and a little cash. My cousin and best friend fortunately got full credit for their work. However, it was hardly the most respected of the CofC publications, and was largely eclipsed by the much more brilliant Delta Green setting a few years later. I was supposed to get credit in a subsequent printing, but they never did a second run.

The cut piece got "published" many years later on Edward P. Berglund's Nightscapes site
here.

I own a chunk of stuff on the list, although most of it has been reference rather than play. Many of the entries are really redressed repeats. For example, Buffy and Angel could be consolidated. There is some difference in tone, but they are set in the same universe and used the same rule set.

I guess any list becomes arbitrary in many ways, but as always, the start of some interesting discussions.

Thanks Chad.
tundra_no_caps From: tundra_no_caps Date: February 26th, 2010 12:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's ridiculous how many I own...
28, if you count the latest version of Pendragon.
From: johntaber Date: February 26th, 2010 04:52 pm (UTC) (Link)

My List

* = I own.

1 Nobilis (8.31)
* 2 Spirit of the Century (8.25)
3 King Arthur Pendragon (8.14)
4 Unknown Armies (8.13)
* 5 Call of Cthulhu (7.95)
6 Feng Shui: Action Movie Roleplaying (7.93)
* 7 Mutants & Masterminds (7.75)
8 Over the Edge (7.7)
9 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (7.68)
10 Paranoia (7.68)
11 Angel Roleplaying Game (7.67)
12 Talislanta (7.62)
13 Buffy the Vampire Slayer Roleplaying Game (7.62)
* 14 Mouse Guard Roleplaying Game (7.6)
15 Dread: The First Book of Pandemonium (7.59)
* 16 Prime Time Adventures (7.56)
17 Big Eyes, Small Mouth (BESM) (7.55)
* 18 Don't Rest Your Head (7.55)
19 Starblazer Adventures (7.55)
20 Tribe 8 (7.54)
* 21 Fading Suns (7.52)
22 All Flesh Must Be Eaten (7.45)
* 23 Jovian Chronicles (7.45)
24 Adventure! (7.4)
* 25 Silver Age Sentinels (7.39)
26 Reign (7.37)
27 RuneQuest (7.36)
28 Call of Cthulhu d20 (7.34)
29 HeroQuest (7.33)
30 Dungeons & Dragons Rules Cyclopedia (7.33)
* 31 Faery's Tale (7.33)
* 32 Dogs in the Vineyard (7.32)
* 33 Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (7.32)
* 34 Wraith: The Oblivion (7.31)
35 Puppetland: A Storytelling Game with Strings in a Grim World of Make-believe (7.31)
36 Hollow Earth Expedition (7.31)
* 37 Ars Magica (7.29)
38 Legend of the Five Rings (7.29)
* 39 Artesia: Adventures in the Known World (7.29)
40 Heavy Gear (7.29)
* 41 Deadlands (7.28)
42 Changeling: The Lost (7.27)
43 Monsters and Other Childish Things (7.25)
* 44 InSpectres (7.21)
* 45 Dark Heresy (7.21)
46 Kult (7.21)
47 The Extraordinary Adventures of Baron Munchausen (7.2)
48 Castle Falkenstein (7.19)
49 Blue Planet Player's Guide (7.19)
50 Blue Planet (7.18)
From: rillibee Date: February 28th, 2010 02:10 am (UTC) (Link)
I have the following games (roughly half the list):

1 Nobilis (8.31)
2 Spirit of the Century (8.25)
4 Unknown Armies (8.13)
5 Call of Cthulhu (7.95)
7 Mutants & Masterminds (7.75)
8 Over the Edge (7.7)
11 Angel Roleplaying Game (7.67)
13 Buffy the Vampire Slayer Roleplaying Game (7.62)
16 Prime Time Adventures (7.56)
17 Big Eyes, Small Mouth (BESM) (7.55)
19 Starblazer Adventures (7.55)
21 Fading Suns (7.52)
23 Jovian Chronicles (7.45)
24 Adventure! (7.4)
25 Silver Age Sentinels (7.39)
26 Reign (7.37)
33 Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (7.32)
37 Ars Magica (7.29)
39 Artesia: Adventures in the Known World (7.29)
40 Heavy Gear (7.29)
48 Castle Falkenstein (7.19)
49 Blue Planet Player's Guide (7.19)
50 Blue Planet (7.18)

I'd say the most common thread among these games is that I found most of them to be interesting to READ. Some for the flavor text, others for the rules or the presentation of those rules, and some for both. They vary pretty wildly in how fun they were to PLAY, and I've never played a large number of them.
danbuter1 From: danbuter1 Date: February 28th, 2010 11:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank God RPGNet has no connection to reality when it comes to game popularity/saleability. :)
danbuter1 From: danbuter1 Date: February 28th, 2010 11:53 pm (UTC) (Link)

my list

1 Nobilis (8.31)
2 Spirit of the Century (8.25)
3 King Arthur Pendragon (8.14)
4 Unknown Armies (8.13)
5 Call of Cthulhu (7.95)
6 Feng Shui: Action Movie Roleplaying (7.93)
7 Mutants & Masterminds (7.75)
8 Over the Edge (7.7)
9 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (7.68)
10 Paranoia (7.68)
11 Angel Roleplaying Game (7.67)
12 Talislanta (7.62)
13 Buffy the Vampire Slayer Roleplaying Game (7.62)
14 Mouse Guard Roleplaying Game (7.6)
15 Dread: The First Book of Pandemonium (7.59)
16 Prime Time Adventures (7.56)
17 Big Eyes, Small Mouth (BESM) (7.55)
18 Don't Rest Your Head (7.55)
19 Starblazer Adventures (7.55)
20 Tribe 8 (7.54)
21 Fading Suns (7.52)
22 All Flesh Must Be Eaten (7.45)
23 Jovian Chronicles (7.45)
24 Adventure! (7.4)
25 Silver Age Sentinels (7.39)
26 Reign (7.37)
27 RuneQuest (7.36)
28 Call of Cthulhu d20 (7.34)
29 HeroQuest (7.33)
30 Dungeons & Dragons Rules Cyclopedia (7.33)
31 Faery's Tale (7.33)
32 Dogs in the Vineyard (7.32)
33 Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (7.32)
34 Wraith: The Oblivion (7.31)
35 Puppetland: A Storytelling Game with Strings in a Grim World of Make-believe (7.31)
36 Hollow Earth Expedition (7.31)
37 Ars Magica (7.29)
38 Legend of the Five Rings (7.29)
39 Artesia: Adventures in the Known World (7.29)
40 Heavy Gear (7.29)
41 Deadlands (7.28)
42 Changeling: The Lost (7.27)
43 Monsters and Other Childish Things (7.25)
44 InSpectres (7.21)
45 Dark Heresy (7.21)
46 Kult (7.21)
47 The Extraordinary Adventures of Baron Munchausen (7.2)
48 Castle Falkenstein (7.19)
49 Blue Planet Player's Guide (7.19)
50 Blue Planet (7.18)
buddha_davis From: buddha_davis Date: March 1st, 2010 02:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hmmm... just consider them all bolded, but none italicized. Damn... I really got to look into insuring my collection...
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