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First, a personal anecdote.

Back in the last millennium, I either heard or read something that ended up causing a fundamental shift in my perspective and personal psychology. It had to do with active listening and conversational stances. The short form of this insight was along the lines of "in a conversation, are you actually listening to the other participants, or just waiting for your turn to speak?" IIRC, one method to judge this involved paying attention to the pronouns one used in speaking -- are you using more "I" than "we" constructions, for example.


This struck me as extremely interesting. The next time I sat down in a staff meeting (in my previous-previous job), I made a (English major-y) little chart on my notepad: the rows were myself and my colleagues' names and the columns were the various pronouns -- I, we, you (singular), you (plural) [1], he/she/it, and they.

[1] Growing up in southwestern PA, I classified "you (plural)" under the heading of "yinz." Depending upon where you are in the South, this is equivalent to "y'all" or "all y'all."

As my co-workers spoke, I made tick marks on how they expressed their opinions in this staff meeting (and tracked my own). I found out some interesting stuff:

* The co-workers I particularly liked most often used "we" when speaking on topics.

* The co-workers I wasn't sure of most often used "they" in speaking on topics.

* The co-worker that I disliked (intensely) overwhelmingly used "I" in speaking on topics; co-workers who were being pettish on an issue most often used I as well.

(Admission: since I was tracking all this, I didn't speak much in that meeting, but self-reflection made me honestly admit that I myself, at the time, used "I" a helluva lot. After that, I have tried to moderate my use of the singular person in general discussions.)

Various personality traits seemed to fall into line behind this pronoun usage:

* Extensive use of "we" were team players and amiable. To me, this connoted solidarity and acceptance of others in a holistic perspective.

* Extensive use of "they" were combative and always at odds with an (external) opponent. To me, this connoted an element of conflict and divisiveness.

* Extensive use of "I" seemed to me to connote selfishness and self-exception, alongside arrogance and a measure of disregard for others.

(Admission: Yeah, this was a shock to me on a personal level. I'm much better now.)

I thought hard -- and have continued to think hard -- about this concept/construction off-and-on for the past decade. It informs the way I communicate, both listening and speaking: I truly believe that there is something to be learned by one's habitual pronoun usage in conversation. While this may be simply rhetorical (in at least two senses of the word), something just feels right about applying this sort of analysis to people's words.

End anecdote.

In listening to Senator Clinton and Senator Obama's speeches over the past several weeks, especially those tonight after the PA Primary, I have to say that from my perspective:

* Obama uses a lot of "we" statements.

* Clinton uses a lot of "I" statements. [2]

[2] To be fair, Clinton's post-PA speech had a lot more "we" than she usually seems to use (IMAO), but that still wasn't a majority of her statements.

In light of this, I think this habitual pronoun usage helps explain an element (among many, including the substantial and the style-focused) of my distaste for Senator Clinton.

I'd love to hear the observations/opinions on this sort of pronoun usage from my f-list -- especially in light of the "unused" pronouns [singular you, plural you (yinz/y'all), and he/she/it) -- be it discussing typical conversation or the political arena.

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macklinr From: [info]macklinr Date: April 23rd, 2008 06:26 am (UTC) (Link)
To be fair and apolitical, you're also talking about a class of people who have been trained on how to speak. Though, I suppose that prompts a larger question: can you alter how you think by altering how you speak (rather than the other way around, which is the natural course)?
bruceb From: [info]bruceb Date: April 23rd, 2008 06:36 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, we can. It's a matter of setting habits. At least in my experience.

Chad, the reservation I have is with the people who use "we" as a manipulative tool, while all the time they're thinking the Bob Dobbs thought, "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the sort of fellow I preach to."

chadu From: [info]chadu Date: April 23rd, 2008 07:18 am (UTC) (Link)
A good reservation to have.

However, is the natural "we" easily distinguishable from the manipulative "we"?

I think it is, to an extent, but this relies on the acuteness of perception of the hearer balanced against the level of manipulation, factoring out paranoia.

Suffice to say, acuteness of perception/level of manipulation/paranoia are three different intersecting spectrums.

CU
banchomarba1 From: [info]banchomarba1 Date: April 23rd, 2008 11:55 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes- "we" often comes off as presumptuous and condescending when it is used by one party that is clearly from a different perspective than the other. I think of this as the "Thinks They Are Royal We" who presumes to speak for those not "qualified" to speak for themselves.

Then there is the "Fox News we"- as in "we all know that XXX is Un-American." which is strictly for manipulative means.

Funny- the use of "we" rubs me the wrong way most of the time, but I like Obama.
chadu From: [info]chadu Date: April 23rd, 2008 07:15 am (UTC) (Link)
can you alter how you think by altering how you speak (rather than the other way around, which is the natural course)?

In my experience: yes.

CU
bananadiameter From: [info]bananadiameter Date: April 23rd, 2008 05:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think it's an automatic, rather a function of becoming more aware of both what you mean and how you are interpreted by the listener.

This includes self-talk -- when I was in college, I had a therapist tell me to count the number of times I called myself stupid (or a variation thereof with the same intent) in a week. I lost count after a day it was so high. Consciously choosing not to belittle myself was a good way to begin to value myself (speech changing thoughts), but it begins with awareness.

lokicarbis From: [info]lokicarbis Date: April 23rd, 2008 07:16 am (UTC) (Link)
* Extensive use of "I" seemed to me to connote selfishness and self-exception, alongside arrogance and a measure of disregard for others.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'self-exception', but I do know of another type who use *I* just as often, albeit a much more rarely occurring one. Without exception, these are semantics students, who will explain (sometimes without any prompting whatsoever) that their use of personal pronouns is an attempt to convey the subjectivity of their points of view.

I've often wondered what results comparing the habitual patterns of use between these two types of first person pronoun preferrers would yield.
chadu From: [info]chadu Date: April 23rd, 2008 07:20 am (UTC) (Link)
Not quite sure what you mean by 'self-exception',

In a word: hypocrisy.

I do know of another type who use *I* just as often, albeit a much more rarely occurring one. Without exception, these are semantics students, who will explain (sometimes without any prompting whatsoever) that their use of personal pronouns is an attempt to convey the subjectivity of their points of view.

That's where I personally (thought I) started from when I started abusing "I"... but it turned into something much less objective over time.

lokicarbis From: [info]lokicarbis Date: April 23rd, 2008 07:24 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I think of a lot of us go through that. Starting from the good intentions, but over time, the knowledge of how we're being interpreted by others seeps in and undermines the whole business.

These days, I probably still make just as many *I* statements (goth knows I'm keenly aware of how often I'm using the perpendicular pronoun just in these comments), but try to indicate the subjectivity through extensive use of qualifiers...
zonemind From: [info]zonemind Date: April 23rd, 2008 07:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Using "we" requires not only acceptance of others, but a sense of having been accepted by them. It seems reasonable to suggest that HR Clinton lacks that sense.
brand_of_amber From: [info]brand_of_amber Date: April 23rd, 2008 04:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
Chad,

Very good observation. There is a whole area of word-choice rhetorical studies that makes issues like this its primary focus.

One of the interesting things about it is that, as with most speech acts, it is contextual. For example, the use of "we" in an address to the public about a future event (what Aristotle would call "deliberative rhetoric") in an appeal to ethos (the ethical quality of the person speaking) is a rhetorical attempt to put us all on an elevated level with the speaker. Obama does this a lot -- the whole "we can do better." OTOH, use of "we" in a public circus in an appeal to emotion (what Aristotle would call "epideictic rhetoric") is an attempt to put us aside from the scape goat, and thus to be able to further marginalize and blame the victim. In that same position an "I" statement can be used to move the focus away from the goat and towards a more etho-centric approach, and thus is actually about responsibility and a move away from blame.

Anyway, I think the difference you note between Obama and Clinton has to do with what they're selling. Obama is selling a collective, Clinton is selling leadership. It's more nuanced than that, obviously, but their rhetoric is designed to reflect a "we, American, must do this together" vs "America must do this, and to do it I must lead us" split.



cweaselle From: [info]cweaselle Date: April 23rd, 2008 10:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
i use *I* quite a lot, but that is because people are always asking me about my disease. I can't usually answer that with we & I hope to never be able to. As to Clinton I will not vote for her no matter what words she uses.
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